J-Pop/Showbiz Male Idol Fan Girls are the WORSE…
We’re all fans of something, from our special interests, hobbies, and yes, people.
I am not denying that I was a major fan of J-Pop/Showbiz (in general, okay?
) three years ago, more specifically towards Johnny’s dudes and similar dudes like w-inds., Lead, and so on and so forth. Heck, I was one of the very few fans back in the early 2000’s who had a very huge fan site dedicated to Arashi and I often get recognized by fellow fans for that one fact. Of course, as I grew older, I also grew over it. I admit that I missed those days when I had full dedication in to maintaining the upkeep of my Arashi fan site. For those long time fans who don’t remember, does anyone remember amnosNET?
Anyway, though there are a lot of things I’ve missed of being a fan of Arashi (and just J-Pop/Showbiz in general), and yet there are a lot of things that I seriously don’t miss. The ones that I don’t miss is what I’m writing about in this entry.
Inspired by what happened to my dear friend on her LJ, I thought I’d write a type of LULz-ish entry in dedication (and segregation) between the real fans and the rabid fan girls. In case you’re wondering what I meant by this, not to mention if you have been a long-time J-Pop/Showbiz/Drama fan, you’ll probably can guess.
Fan boys not applied. You dudes got much respect to your idols— save the perverted ones who think the entire Morning Musume unit should be a harem. >__>
For all the wrongly abused and hated fans out there, this is for your LULz. Here me ROAR!
You Are a Rabid Fan Girl MOST J-Pop/Showbiz (Male) Idols Want to Avoid if…
- You declare to the entire world (via online or even in print) that you are the destined wife of (some idol’s name) and curse the rest of the fan girls to die.
- You sell all your life and soul to the devil eBay for the Super Fan Girl/(Idol’s Name)’s Future Wife Fund.
- If you are Japanese, you’ll run away from home simply so you can find your new home across the street from your favorite idol’s home or apartment complex. If you are a foreigner, you ignore the costs of hotel reservations and be a wanna be Woodstocker bum, right across the street from your favorite idol’s home or apartment complex.
- You would wholeheartedly jump over the heights of a school building, the Rainbow Bridge, Mt. Fuji, Tokyo Tower, or even going far, the Ushiku Daibutsu (and other high places in Japan) just because you’ve read some ridiculous rumor about your idol published by the tabloid likes of Friday and Bubka. If the rumor turns out to be true, you would either stop being that idol’s fan, hunt the guilty tramp who ruined your idol’s reputation in public, or you’d just simply go through that ceremonial seppuku thinking you are honorably killing yourself because of this particular news. Are you saying you’re more honorable than your idol? Tsk, tsk…
- You think kawaii is the premiere Japanese word every foreign fan girl should know. In reality, male Japanese in general don’t like to be called kawaii. Sure, there are kawaii babies, kawaii pets, kawaii kids, kawaii things, kawaii girls, and kawaii moments, but never a kawaii ikemen-esque Japanese dude. Of course, I could be wrong with this because that depends on the “manliness” of that individual dude… O_O Learn some real Japanese, foo!
- Japanese in general like foreigners. It’s the same with many Americans, who also like foreigners, Canadians, Australians, British, French, German, you get the idea. Just because a Japanese male idol says that he likes foreigners, that doesn’t mean he prefers a foreign girl to date or even marry in comparison to a Japanese female. For a typical foreign fan girl, like = marry. Sure, any Japanese male idol may marry a foreign girl. The thing is, it’s not going to be you.
- You buy several units of uchiwa fans, not because they’re breakable when used often during the summer to cool yourself down, but so you can make a mess out of them by pasting pictures of your favorite idol or write/paste incorrectly-written kana or kanji of that idol’s name. You would bring them to the concerts or you’d decide to rip other fan girls off by selling them at a price higher than the original.
- You’re desperate to get in to the stadium and get tickets to watch your favorite idol perform or have a guest appearance at a public signing. When you learn you got ripped off by an unreliable scalper, you do the same trick yourself by ripping off another fan girl by selling off your fake tickets to that girl.
- You declare war with other fan girls who aren’t fans of your favorite idol. You insist that your idol is better than theirs that you’d egg them, TP’d (tissue paper) them, and if this were an online all-out drama war, flood their blogs and their LJs and such with so much hatred like your life depends on it.
- You declare war with fellow fan girls who like the same idol as you and consider them your enemies, even the ones who only admire that idol for that idol’s talent or the determination and personality of that idol.
- You declare war with the idol/actress cast opposite your favorite actor in a drama or a movie. What the heck for? Haven’t you realized that acting is also a job position? Like everyday working people, they’re also working to eat and live too. You don’t now these actresses as people, so back off.
- You write numerous fan mail to that same idol with some occasional gifts like a burned CD of your favorite love songs or some— unmentionables— even if you know your idol would never read them, let alone receive them.
- You write fanfiction about your favorite idol… except the main girl “coincidentally” has the same name as yours. Mary Sue, anyone?
- You sign up for an IM account, a blog/LJ account, or a forum account that has your first name and your idol’s last name. That’s not the bad thing though. The bad thing is that your attitude takes your user name so seriously that you do all you can to convince other fan girls that you are *the* future wife of your favorite idol. Go figure.
- You build a fansite dedicated to that idol… except the contents mainly consist of you and your elaborate dreams of becoming your idol’s future wife rather than actual facts, news, updates, and information about that idol. Wait… are those Photoshop-edited images of your idol and a familiar idol girl’s body but pasted with your face in it…? O__O;
- You post up an ad at some J-Pop/Showbiz Fans online forum seeking for an online native Japanese friend, not because you want that person to be your friend, but to gain hookups and use that person to “get the latest news” about your idol (so you can show off to the rest of the fans by posting that news first online) or get that person to buy you stuff (so you can show off to the rest of the fans by posting pics of yourself and your goodies making a fool of yourself).
- A very rare occasion, but it definitely does happen. You’re so rabid that sometimes you even consider yourself the “same person” as your favorite idol. In turn, you sign up on IMs, sign up in forums and anything similar, thinking that you’re that idol to throw other fan girls off. It’s a mystery why fan girls would do this, but it’s not like something significant might happen to you in relation to your favorite idol.
- You make up nicknames or code names for your favorite idol, only to learn later that your favorite idol may not even like nicknames or just prefer a personal nickname they own. Show some respect, people. x_x
- You buy whatever luxury item as your favorite idol. That includes the cellphone strap and the idol’s MD (minidisc) player, which I think is already out of style…?
; Buy an iPod or an iPhone or something… - You buy the same label of clothes as your idol, even if they’re strictly for men.
- You go around online claiming that you know a friend who’s friends with a friend of a friend of your favorite idol. You also go around online claiming that you are friends with a friend who is a relative of your favorite idol. Obviously this is hard to believe, but if you really are a true friend of that friend who may be friends with your favorite idol, shouldn’t you be a real friend by RESPECTING the privacy of your friend that has connections with your favorite idol? If you really have friends who are related or friends with your favorite idol, then SHUT UP! >.>
- You’ve got so much love that you decided to translate and subtitle every single show, movie, concert, appearance, or news (magazine)-type of talk shows you can get your hands on where your favorite idol is featured. Good for you, you’ve got some good grasp of the Japanese. We all know that you have little to no patience editing and proofreading your translations (as in grammar, spelling, sentence structure (heavens forbid it’s NOT the same as Japanese sentence structure!) or even double-checking to be sure that your translations are actually correct, nor that you couldn’t care less of forming a team where it takes a village to present a well-translated and interpreted subtitled edition of that video clip. Oh, and what’s with the useless sidenotes? No one cares if you’re “married” to that idol and you want the actress opposite him to drop dead.
- You vowed yourself to be an idol tarento (talent) in Japan. Just like Hollywood, it’s not easy to get in to showbiz just like that as agency professionals can immediately determine that you are a typical fan girl only using this opportunity to get close to your favorite idol. You are not Leah Dizon (Pinay pride, FTW~!
), Beni Arashiro, Hikaru Utada, Crystal Kay, Minami Barges, or Riisa Naka and heck’s for sure these agencies aren’t interested in you just because you look pretty and perky. What happened to the tarento part of you?
I’m pretty sure I’m exaggerating, but even if that was the case, they actually happen. Real fans stick together and unite, sharing their common interests and thoughts about their favorite idol (singer, whatever). Rabid fan girls seem to see each other as competitors and end up on a Battle Royale and see which one would be the last standing. I know there’s a whole lot more, but these are the only ones I can think of from my head. As a warning to those who feel offense with this article, there will eventually be more, so if I were you, I’d laugh rather than get offended and declare war against a sarcastic fan like myself.
Oh, for those who find delight in this article, please feel free to add more by commenting.
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I really like your article!!
I agree about some newbies act like they know everything about their idols. Some of them are trying to exist in fandom even by stealing and reposting translations claimed to be their own works. The others just hate older fans who know more than them. But there is also a tendency of elitism where some “senior” fans ignored and berate newer fans. I’ve just been in Johnny’s fandom for 3 years, but I already found these uncomfortable things in fandom, so I can quite imagine what you felt, since you were already in the fandom long before me. A friend of mine who is an Arashi fan from 1999 just decided to resign from fandom and enjoy Arashi by herself.
Hi there, thanks for stopping by!
You know, I’ve had a few “haters” (actually I have about…. 1? LOL XD) who thought I was conceited to write something like this on my own blog. But sadly, stealing other peoples’ original content and translations without credit is very common in any fandom if you think about it. There were a lot of “good” fans and informative ones in the past (before I went on a hiatus), but now most of them have given up or moved on or simply just enjoying their fandom their own way. I don’t blame them. I’m very close to that route myself.
Well, I’m a returning fan, and in a way, for those “senior” fans (those who only learned about Arashi for like… I dunno… after 2006 with the whole “Jun-Bait”/HYD period?) they seem to consider “returning fans” (the “outdated” ones, in other words) as “newbie” fans too. I joined an Arashi forum that was only about 2-yrs-old and a lot of the people in there treated me like a total noob in there and when I complained, they say that I’m the only one who felt that way. Whatever. I quit going over there and pretty much steering away from forums right now.
I’m currently rebuilding my old ARASHI fansite (AMNOSnet) right now. Still need to add more content in there but I’d like to present ARASHI to the masses my own way. No gimmicks, no fluff, no excessive fangirling (seriously, who on earth would care about the site owner’s fangirlism in a supposed “informative” fansite?), just keeping it real, you know?
I don’t blame your friend. I would probably have done the same too, but I decided to take the “returning” route in hopes of having these obnoxious, self-conceited “newer” obsessive fans SCHOOLED.
Yeah, it’s a pain being treated as newbies when we decided to return to fandom..I experienced that in J-rock fandom
I know Arashi’s existence since they appear in one of the episode of old Domoto Kyoudai where Gackt became the pianist (2003-ish?), but I didn’t care about them until I watched Yamada Taro (Nino’s bait, not HYD/Jun’s bait like many other fans were baited XDD) so I’m still a newbie in Arashi fandom^^
I really support your effort to build no-excessive fangirling fansite! I’ve just visited AMNOS.net, and I think I’m gonna rely on your website to get infos
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I joined a local forum before, but I felt alienated because I didn’t understand their way of fangirling, like making (Arashi member)’s Wife Association or similar things
If you have time, I want to know your opinion about how hard to get subbed downloads nowadays, since many communities require some conditions to enable fans to get the downloads.
Hi again vie! Sorry for the late response.
In terms of subbed downloads, it’s actually one of the topics that I plan to write about in here. I’ve been working on AMNOS.net a lot as of late that I haven’t even have the time to write frequently here anymore, but I haven’t forgotten.
LOL… “ARASHI (membername) ‘Wife’ Association”, huh? Why do I get the feeling that we must have joined the same forum? I joined a few forums awhile that has that all around. Back in the early fandom days (2002-2006) there wasn’t such thing as those. Even until now I’m still quite appalled at all these “trends” going on within the Arashi fandom today… all the flailing and the obsessing and the spazzing…
Will keep in touch.
I’ll wait for your article regarding subbed materials
and ganbatte for AMNOS.net!
WOW! this is long and interesting.^^ even though i’m a fan only 2years ago… i can understand what you meant and i hope i’m not viewed as a rabid fan girl coz i’m not, gladly… hhehhee it made me think..”does those fangirls really exist? amazing!”…
i normally search for updates and i think i belong to the rookie to normal fangirl stage….
and i do not go to the point of stealing other’s works.. that also pisses me off!… i appreciate their efforts and i don’t know why there are still those who’d do that…
i’ve read the add ons too and i don’t know if i have more to say….
uhm…. just got confused on the…. “leah dizon? pinay pride…” are you pinay? just asking… hope you don’t mind…
Thanks for stopping by and share your words.
Well, this isn’t targeting anyone in particular, but it’s both a general entry/listing of what a typical (male J-)idol fan girl is like. It’s not just based on observation of others, but many of them are derived from all the “fangirling” habits that I used to go through several years ago. It’s kind of like a “reflection” of who I was as a fan and it can also be a “reflection” for other fans too. Sadly though, not everyone took this entry lightly as I’ve had *some* “hate” comments from other fangirls as of late how I need to”get a life” than to “hate” on fangirls in general… I don’t get it… if not having a job and spending time with family and friends most of my time while participating in the church choir and other volunteer work in the community isn’t considered “having a life,” then I don’t know what it is.
But I can assure you… many of the stuff I wrote in the “list” may be outrageous and simply unbelievable (heck, even I can’t believe it myself), but sadly, they do exist.
Stealing others’ works, meaning the fanworks? (ie. fanart, graphics, fanfics, etc.?) Fanart and fanfics, that I can understand. Graphics is somewhat of a different matter. JE actually had their idols’ photographs (from magazines and CDs and other print media paraphernelia) become prohibited from being used in fanworks or even be posted on the web. Even their own official sites don’t even have images of them. They get nitpicky with the “copyright” issues with those images, which is ridiculous if you ask me. They treat their idols as their “assets and properties”, so they’re more like their “products” rather than their “clients.” Know where I’m getting at?
If you took a visit to the ADRIATASTIC? section at the nav menu above, you’ll find your answer there.
You have raised some interesting points…
If you don’t mind, can I list down a couple of my fandom peeves?
1.) Demanding fans–> People have lives outside the fandom. I find comments like, “MU links please coz MF hates me!” or “Subs please.” or “When will the next episode come out?” very annoying. They are not getting paid for this so the least takers could do is be thankful with what’s provided for them. And no, the word ‘please’ is not magical all the time…
2.) Unsolicited re-distributors (sellers) of raw or subbed media–> All I can say is, STOP IT!!!
3.) Extremely biased fans–> Everyone has their favorite. Naturally, you want others to recognize that he’s full of awesome. I just don’t see the point why you have to insult the member whom you less/least like, even in totally unrelated posts/entires. I am not talking about affectionate bashing here. Saying that you don’t care if X plummeted to his death or if the group would be better without X is not funny. Adding emoticons, abbreviations, or apologies after does not help.
Or insulting a member and something that he worked hard for because he ranked higher than your favorite in an online poll? What the…
Or hating a member because his fans are annoying?
Or always trying to find something wrong with what your least liked member says or does?
Or whining that you’d rather have Y involved in a project rather than X? What gives? Every individual job contributes to the group’s welfare. You can wish for someone to have a solo job, but to end up insulting another person is insensitivity on my part.
Hiya! Thanks for stopping by! I’ve gotten some good responses in this article that rather than updating this article that I’m going to make a “part 2″ of this.
Keep them coming. We need to build some fan girl guidelines or something for the “noobs”. (I don’t mean as an insult, of course. ^^)
none taken!!! we were all noobs/newbs once, but being one now is very different. as a noob, i stalked every blog and website about arashi. i never considered wading through 6746217364761 pages of youtube clips tedious. also upon finding another fan, i go, “OMG!!! SHE LIKES THEM TOO!!!” it takes me a while to find the courage to post a comment, though…
meeting fellow arashi fans back then was very special and wondrous.
i’m looking forward to part two.
At mabuhay ang pan de sal!!!
LOL you made great points there! and we all see those kind of people everywhere XDDDDD
Gosh~ How I miss the old fandom days and amnosNET.
Now nearly EVERYONE knows Arashi and it just doesn’t feel as fun as before when we all got excited just because we find some random file and can’t wait to share it with everyone. These days, you can find everything easily and although it’s great to get those things, I still miss the tight bond between the fan in the old days
I know… and the newer fans (from my observation that is) aren’t that friendly either too. All of a sudden some would berate you for liking the same idol as they do… and they even ignore you when you try to “impart some knowledge” to them about Arashi. It just doesn’t feel the same.
I wish I still had the dang domain… maybe I can revive everything (using wordpress this time, dangit)… but eh… I’m more of a regular general J-dorama/idol fan now. LOL XD
But seriously, we need to keep in touch. That’s for sure.
Yup! you got that one right! XD
the this is that they act as if they’re the one who knows every single thing on Arashi which is just sometimes can be really annoying LOL
that’s why right now I don’t really get involve in the fandom anymore and just keep in contact with some fans from Indonesia XD
actually me and vicky (with one of our friend) open another Arashi fansite (the one we had before was gone…it’s a long story with some sort of conflict XDDDD). remember how amnosNET was THE fansite? now they got A LOT of them, so we decided to concentrate on the Indonesian fans…LOL
Same here. Well, I tried joining forums (Arashian just reopened again but there’s barely any activity there, primarily the admins >.>) and a lot of the newer members just flat-out ignore you. No respect, I tell you. But it’s all good, really. As long as I have my friends who were in the same level of fandom as I was several years ago (we rule, you know… we STILL rule even up to now ^_~), I’m all good.
Yeah, I checked out your new Arahsi page. I don’t regret losing amnosNET, but I think it was time for other fans to “continue the legacy” and promote Arashi the same way as I did w/ amnosNET. If I can still able to get the domain back, I may reopen (probably using wordpress on this one— I found a tutorial on how to create an easy static-page website using Wordpress… been getting lazy with web design as of late LOL). We can still reach out to new fans one way or another… just gotta find a way to work around with the “competition” and we’ll be fine.
Just wanted to say that the entry was hilarious and I do recognize some of the bullet points you mentioned. Thanks for the entry, it relieved some of my stress from work today!
Good to hear. Thanks for visiting.
What can I say? We really do need to laugh at ourselves sometimes. It’s also a helpful reminder for the truly hardcore rabid fan girls on what to do and what not to do. It’s plain common sense in general, but knowing that not very many people have it, oh heck. Why not?
eeeekkk!!!rabid fans <—– scary!!
Leah Dizon (Pinay pride, FTW~!)
saw this so i clicked on your profile..ahh really? one of the pinoy migrant to usa?
where (what country) were you when you became a fan of arashi, just wondering?
Haha, thanks for visiting!
I moved here when I was 10-yrs-old (I’m in my early 30s now, by the way), so when I became a fan of Arashi, I’m already here in the U.S. Arashi came to Hawaii back in spring 2002 (I live in California, but I saw them in local Asian-American TV news so yeah LOL) for the entire weekend, calling the event “Arashi Days.”
I became a fan of Arashi back when they were not as known as they are today. I sorta dropped out of fandom in 2007 and I’m sorta slowly coming back in to it again this year.
I actually knew of Leah Dizon before she ended up being a J-Pop idol today. My brother and his friends would often go to various car shows and Leah Dizon was one of the race queens there (she’s originally from Las Vegas). I think she’s mixed, but her father’s definitely Pinoy, which makes her Pinay.
The various stages of fangirling.
+the reluctant fangirl: is the fangirl that in most cases doesn’t want to admit she’s one, is embarrassed of her fangirl tendencies, maybe because of ignorance in the ways of fangirling or just because for personal reasons she thinks she’s not “allowed” to fangirl. The reluctant fangirl will eventually succumb to her desires and turn into a full fledged fangirl in time.
+the rookie: is the fangirl that has been recently exposed to the greatness of her idol, she’s still looking around, trying to get a hold of everything and is surprised and bewildered by all the new things she’s experiencing.
+the normal fangirl: is the one that is in tune with her fangirliness, she accepts herself and dreams of her idol, she may even have more than one. The normal fangirl buys magazines, collects pics, goes to concerts, watches dramas, searches the internet for behind the scenes clips, reads gossip, and all that.
+The ninja fangirl: she lurks, she operates in the dark, she never posts nor makes herself known, she doesn’t go to concerts, she never meets up with other fangirls, a loner, she nevertheless is a crazy fangirl, she adores in secret, she swoons in her bathroom, when no one is around and she can’t be heard. Be it because of shame, or because of a fetish with secrecy she will buy her idol’s cds in the same fashion people rent porn, covering it up with other stuff, dreading the look of the clerk, hiding them in hidden compartments around her place. A mysterious fangirl, she is very interesting.
+the crazy-fangirl: is the one that is so into fangirling she becomes demented. She has delusional thoughts of being her idol’s one and only, she battles others of her kind for control over the object of her desire, she screams and shouts every time she sees her idol. She’s so engulfed with fangirling she even becomes inspired and writes fanfiction and learns to photoshop solely for the purpose of seeing herself besides her idol and feel closer to him/her. The crazy fangirl usually is not well received by others and so she searches for a place she can call her own where she can fangirl to her heart’s content shamelessly.
+the perv fangirl: is a crazy fangirl that has taken the sexual route, all her fangirling is bound to turn perv and seems incapable of thinking pure thoughts when it comes to her idol. She duels in the gutters and she likes it. She bows down to mokkori, it’s her way of life. She may scare a few of the male species with her over-the-top sexuality but enthrall others as well. The perv fangirl is contagious, you will get perved if you hang out too long with her.
+the über fangirl: is the scary type, the one that takes her fangirling to the street, she stalks, she threatens, she harasses, she may even kill herself. Beware of the über fangirl, if you see her, run the other way.
Nice article, Princess_jime! Thanks for sharing.
When I was a major fan 3 years ago, I belonged in this category:
Well, to add (or subtract), I’ve never gone to the concerts or “searches the net for behind the scenes clips” or even read gossip. All the rest pretty much applies to me. I did have a super-huge Arashi fansite that lasted for about 5 years or so then I just grown over it.
Today, I don’t even think I fit in any of them since I can’t afford to buy the stuff anymore.
XD Yes, as we get older… we realize we have to spend our money on little things like water, electricity, gas, food. XD Nothing left for magazines and such (btw: I’m also in my early 30s). I was as normal a fangirl as can be, only everything I do (still) is bound to finding free stuff online. There’s just no way I can spend on proper cds and all that LOL.
You rule, girl! When I was major fan back in the early 2000s, I’ve met a lot of Arashi/JE fans who are a lot older than me (in their late 30s-early 50s… I was around 24 or 25 when I became a fan). We can go freebie, thanks to the latest technology. Imagine back then, there weren’t any YouTubes or fansubbers…. we had to get everything raw and struggle w/ the Japanese LOL. Lucky for me I’m pretty proficient enough in Japanese that I can almost understand them. ^^
Hi, here’s a random Arashi fan dropping by xD
I definitely agree with the things you have said. ^^ And I very, very strongly agree with “Real fans stick together and unite, sharing their common interests and thoughts about their favorite idol (singer, whatever).”
here’s one thing i didn’t see in the post– people who steal other fan’s hardwork, such as fanart, when that person has worked really hard and spent time and effort in it. now this is one of the things that pisses me off real bad.
Ah, fanart! I actually had that at the tip of my tongue because I was checking out my devART account at the time I was writing this (sadly I don’t do much fanart since I’m not very good at drawing LOL ^^). I can’t believe I didn’t add that, but thanks for reminding me.
I forgot to set the comments section of this blog (since hardly anyone comes here). I’ll be sure to turn off the restrictions. ^^;
it might not be within the scope, but maybe i can also add:
- some might also think that a/some fangirl(s) is/are a threat to them, so they ganged up and go against the said person/ group of people.
most of the time, it’s the hormone reacting, really.
- i believe having your own land with your own name where you fantasize on arashi(like salwaland) is cool, but if it get carries out in real life, that’s SCARY.
-fantasy should stay in fantasyland. that’s about it.
i’m having fun reading all this ^^
LOL… thanks for your contributions. I’ll be sure to update this article when I can. You can still find this article quickly by going to the Articles section of this blog. ^^
I actually knew someone from 3-ish years ago (when I was still active) who had a “fantasy land” like that. Can’t believe I missed that. LOL
Gosh! I miss those days when things were simple and Arashi was unknown.
And I remember amnosNET very well
Long time no see! I pretty much gave up on amnosNET… have someone else carry on the legacy of true fandom. I’ll just sit back and relax and be behind the scenes or something. LOL. Although it looks like I still have Arashin Introspect (gallery/wallpapers/etc.) up somewhere. Maybe I’ll just salvage that or something LOL. ^^
But those were definitely fun days when we used to know all of the Arashi fans around the world when no one were familiar with him. LOL. Now we’ve got a whole race of people under “stormy conditions.”
Nice to hear from you again~!